I'm working on project that is Powered with 8 LiIon batteries/cells connected in parallel. Everything Works fine until batteries run out of "juice".
For charging module I decided to use TP4056(@ 1A). Now, problem is – TP4056 module can charge only one LiIon cell at the time, so I need 8 modules for proper charging(one module per cell). There is two versions of TP4056 module, one with over discharge Protection(pins: B+, B-, OUT+, OUT-), one without Protection(pins: OUT+, OUT-), so I decided to go with module that has over discharge Protection(now I'm asking myself why I did that).
Next is scheme(I don't have it but I'll write it):
- Pins OUT+ and OUT- are connected in parallel(between modules). Those pins are in use as VCC for project(let's say it's "power source").
- One cell is connected on B+ and B- pins of one module. With that way one module charges only one cell(as it should).
But!
Yesterday I found that sometimes(since I buy from eBay) those Protection modules have problem/bug and they aren't reliable. Also later I found that cut-off voltage is 2.5V, while manufactuer recommends 3V(in most LiIon cells). I guess this design will fail so I decided to find another solution.
So my question is:
How to make this same "design" with TP4056 without over discharge Protection(only OUT+ and OUT- pins)? How I should connect batteries with modules so only one module charges one cell? Any advices?
I paid more than €50 for those 8 cells and last thing I want to do is to destroy them with wrong charging "design".
I'm not sure is my solution correct so I wrote this question.
My solution is:
- Connect cell's positive pole to OUT+ pin of TP4056 and same thing with negativ pole(to OUT-).
- Connect cells in parallel and that use as power souce.
So my thinking is:
While charging, current will flow where is less resistance(as river in nature), it will flow from OUT+ through cell then from negative pole to OUT-. Is that correct? But if cells are used as power souce then current will flow as normal in parallel connection. Am I right?
Thanks a lot!
Best Answer
Once you have a number of cells permanently connected in parallel you can treat them as a single cell with larger capacity for both discharge and charge. Separating the cells to charge them is overly complex.
Design a single Lion charger and BMS (individual cell temp will show faults) that charges your total battery capacity at its best possible rate.
There will be small differences in the cells and the charging (and discharging) current will not be exactly equal across the cells, but the terminal voltage of all cells will be absolutely identical (they are shorted together after all). The worst case problem you have is that one cell may fail open circuit forcing the other cells to a higher charge current and potentially resulting in a cascade failure of your pack. If temperature warning is not in your judgement fast enough to provide failure detection, then you could put a Hall Effect current sensor in each battery connection.
Based on your comment:
You should definitely NOT do this. Taking the batteries out of the holder/housing and charging them separately using TP4056 chargers will NOT provide matched terminal voltages from your multiple chargers. You will introduce uncontrolled balancing currents when you plug them back into the holder/housing. The balancing current will certainly not destroy the batteries, but depending on each cells temperature and terminal voltage the circulating currents could be several hundred mA up to several amps.
Putting series fuses in for each cell (as suggested in the comments) is a viable way to protect against a short in one cell (a single cell fire as opposed to an 8 cell fire ...perhaps). You could certainly consider that.
The TP4056 can't be paralleled easily because the terminal voltage and current thresholds will be different for every charger chip. You might however be able to get away with this in a limited form since the TP4056 is a CC/CV linear charger. I would not suggest you use more than 3 of the simple variety in parallel.
The 168650 cells vary a lot, here's a typical datasheet.
I would be concerned that if you ever had a fault where only one battery cell is in place, you are seriously overcharging at 3A particularly with no temp sensing in place. However if you are comfortable that your paralleling wiring and connections for the pack are safe enough, then 3A may be a viable charge current for the pack.
The datasheet for the TP4056 shows that there is a range of output voltages for the CV mode. If your battery pack is depleted to say 3.4V then you can be sure that all three chargers would be in CC mode, so far so good. However they will switch from CC to trickle and CV at different times (voltages), with the highest voltage chip defining the final switch point.
Three chargers would produce 3A, then 2A + 1 Trickle, then 1A + 2 trickle, then 3 trickle as the terminal voltage of the pack rises. Eventually all three chargers would terminate, with the highest voltage chip defining that point.