Electronic – Basic 741 Op Amp Question

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I am trying to build a basic 2 input summing amplifier using radio shacks 741 op amp. I have a feeling I damaged my IC chip through my wacky experimentation's. But lets run through the math just in case I am missing something. After all, I am new to this!

If I power the op amp with a voltage supply of +-5V and I set one input to 1.28V and the other input to 0 the voltage output should be -1.28V. Simple node voltage calculations and a PSpice simulation confirm this prediction. For some reason I am getting an output of 1.92 V without attaching anything to my inverted and non inverted inputs. So the 1.92 is coming directly from the supply. I was under the impression that the supply did not effect the sum. Where am I going wrong? Or is the chip busted, playing tricks and causing me severe electonxiety.

Any advice? Thanks in advance.

Turns out I can not add images, I am two points shy! Here is the link, sorry for the inconvenience.

http://www.itssimplydesign.com/summing_op_amp.jpg

Best Answer

I agree with Oli:

If you have another chip, try that to make sure this one is not blown.

If they both do the same thing, then this smells like a case of phase-reversal. Op-amps have a valid common-mode input range. In the case of an LM741 (datasheet from www.national.com), the +/- 15V supply range yields a guaranteed +/- 12V common-mode input range. Outside that range, it used to be common for the output gain to sometimes reverse sign, causing positive feedback rather than negative feedback and the output to saturate at the rail until it came back into its valid input range.

Modern op-amps are carefully designed to not have this problem, because it's confusing and nasty to debug. Which is one of several reasons why my tongue-in-cheek comment ("basic 741 opamp answer: there's always a better op-amp to use") is good advice. There are plenty of cheap and good op-amps that have much better performance specs than the 741.

This webpage seems to indicate the 741 doesn't suffer from phase-reversal -- the ones that do are JFETS -- so maybe it is just your chip that's busted -- but I'd use the LM358 instead.

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