# Electronic – Calculating the pulldown resistance for a given MOSFET’s gate

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I searched and read many similar questions, but did not find a specific answer for how to calculate the correct value for a pulldown resistor for a MOSFET's floating gate. It seems like everyone dodges the question with a 1K, 10K, or 100K "ought to work".

If I had an N-Channel IRF510 and I was going to run the gate from 9V to switch a \$V_{DS}\$ of 24V at 500mA, what value should I use for the gate's pulldown resistor and how did you calculate that value?

Here is a quantitative way to determine the boundaries of acceptable gate termination resistance \$R_g\$ for power MOSFETs .

This will be a lazy lazy lazy (\$L^3\$) approach. So:

• Very simple FET model, just \$C_{\text{gd}}\$, \$C_{\text{gs}}\$, and \$R_g\$ included.
• FET capacitors regarded as linear only.
• FET gate has been pulled down to the source through \$R_g\$.
• \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ forcing voltage no more complicated than a linear ramp will be used.

The intent of a (\$L^3\$) approach is get maximum insight/usefulness with minimum effort, by using a model that is simple as possible but still meaningful.

Model is a simple capacitive divider with resistive pull down. \$V_{\text{gs}}\$ was solved for in the frequency domain, and then inverse Laplace transformed for time domain.

Three operating conditions are analyzed using this model:

1. A voltage appears on the drain to source while \$R_g\$ = \$\infty\$. This is a condition that should never occur in a real circuit, but is instructive to think about.
2. The gate is terminated to the source through \$R_g\$ with some finite value, while any change to \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ slow and infrequent. Every FET in use spends some time in this condition. For example during startup all FETs go through a period where they should be off and any change of \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ happens over milli-seconds. During this type of operation, the FET is essentially a passive device.
3. Frequent short rise and fall time switching with \$R_g\$ having some finite value. Most FETs end up spending extended time in this condition.

## 1. The Unterminated Gate: \$R_g\$ = \$\infty\$

After setting \$R_g\$ = \$\infty\$:

\$V_{\text{gs}}\$ = \$\frac{C_{\text{gd}} V_{\text{ds}}}{C_{\text{gd}}+C_{\text{gs}}}\$

So, in this case, \$V_{\text{gs}}\$ is just a scaled version of \$V_{\text{ds}}\$, and the scale factor is the capacitive divider of \$C_{\text{gd}}\$ and \$C_{\text{gs}}\$. For the IRF510:

\$V_{\text{ds-max}}\$ = 100V
\$C_{\text{gd}}\$ = \$C_{\text{rss}}\$ = 20pF
\$C_{\text{gs}}\$ = \$C_{\text{ciss}}\$ - \$C_{\text{gd}}\$ = 135pF - 20pF = 115pF
\$V_{\text{gth-min}}\$ = 2V

For a drain to source voltage greater than 14V, \$V_{\text{gs}}\$ will be greater than the 2V threshold and the part will start to conduct. It doesn't matter how the voltage appears on the drain, just that it is there. Pretty obvious why nobody ever leaves a FET gate unterminated.

## 2. FET off During System Startup: \$R_g\$ = Some Finite Value

Allowing \$R_g\$ to be a variable finite value:

\$V_{\text{gs}}\$ = \$C_{\text{gd}} V_{\text{dsSlp}} R_g \left(1-e^{-\frac{t}{R_g \left(C_{\text{gd}}+C_{\text{gs}}\right)}}\right)\$

\$V_{\text{dsSlp}}\$ is the slope or linear ramp forcing voltage (in volts/second) across the drain to source. If \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ rises from 0 to 25V in 2 milli-seconds, \$R_g\$ will need to be less than 11 MOhms for \$V_{\text{gs}}\$ to remain below the 2V threshold and remain off.

Such slow rates of change (in the 1 to 10 milli-second range) for \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ are why Olin Lathrop can correctly say \$R_g\$ values of 1kOhm, 10kOhm, or 100kOhm ought to work. So, yes for a passive pull down to keep a FET off during system startup or other seldom switched low dV/dt application, almost any kilo-Ohm resistor will do.

Why even waste time looking at this? If that's all there is we can all just roll over, go back to sleep, and be happy. But, there's a lot more to it, so let's look at a little of that next.

## 3. \$R_g\$ Requirements With High dV/dt at Drain to Source -- The dV/dt Issue

Nearly all FETs end up being frequently switched, between 10KHz and 500KHz, with short rise and fall time \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ transitions. Most FETs will be turned off in 20 to 100 nano-seconds, and this is where gate termination becomes important. Let's look at the IRF510 with \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ rising linearly from 0 to 25V in 50 nano-seconds. Using the equation in conditon 2 above:

\$V_{\text{gs}}\$ = \$\text{(20pF) }\text{(25V/50nsec) }\text{Rg} \left(1-e^{-\frac{\text{50 nsec}}{\text{(20pF + 115pF)} \text{ Rg}}}\right)\$

So, plugging in a value of 270 Ohms for \$R_g\$ gives \$V_{\text{gs}}\$ ~ 2V. That would be the highest value of \$R_g\$ that could be used without the FET possibly turning back on.

\$R_g\$ greater than this maximum value allows the FET to be turned on a little or a lot, depending on the energy forcing \$V_{\text{ds}}\$. FET could turn on just enough to leak current and dissipate power, but showing no real effect on \$V_{\text{ds}}\$, or could turn on enough to cause \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ to drop, which in the right conditions can cause oscillation.

Clearly, the higher the peak value or transition rate of \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ the lower the gate circuit resistance must be.

## Finding the Minimum Value for \$R_g\$

Why not just make \$R_g\$ zero, or as small as possible?

So far in this analysis, the gate circuit is dominated by resistance, but there is also inductance in the gate circuit. If gate resistance is minimized, gate inductance becomes dominant in circuit dynamics, and with \$C_{\text{gs}}\$ forms an LC resonant circuit. LCR circuits with Q > 1 become increasingly ringy, which is a problem for FET gate control if charge is injected through \$C_{\text{gd}}\$ from \$V_{\text{ds}}\$ or also from switching waveform from the gate drive . For example, an LCR circuit with a Q of 2 will ring to about 1.5 times its driving voltage. For a gate drive with a 14 V source, a Q of 2 would be enough to damage the gate of most FETs.

For a series LC resonant circuit :

Q = \$\frac {Z_o} {R}\$ and \$Z_o\$ = \$\sqrt {\frac {L} {C}}\$

Let's look a a specific case with the IRF510. Including routing and package inductance, the gate circuit could easily have 11 or 12 nH of inductance. Recall that the IRF510 has a \$C_{\text{gs}}\$ of 115pF, so \$Z_o\$ would be about 10 Ohms. Matching \$R_g\$ to \$Z_o\$ would give a Q of 1, which would be the maximum Q for non-overshoot of drive waveform. Minimum \$R_g\$ should be greater than \$Z_o\$.

## Some Things to Keep in Mind

• \$R_g\$ is the total series resistance between the gate and source of the FET. This includes driver output resistance, resistance in the connection from drive to FET gate, resistance in the FET structure (physical gate and package).
• Useable values for \$R_g\$ fall into a range, not too high and not too low. \$R_g\$ > \$R_{g-\max }\$ or \$R_g\$ < \$R_{g-\min }\$ can cause the FET to oscillate.
• All FETs show dV/dt effects, especially older technology parts.

Consider this to be the minimum knowledge needed about gate circuit resistance in MOSFETs.