Electronic – Dali Commissioning Without Randomise

Adding as a seperate answer because the new question is different from the original:

Your Manchester decoding is correct but the bit order is b8-b7 etc to b0 so you have the bit decoding backwards. The set bits are b2 = arc power ON and b4 = Fade is running. These make sense as you have sent broadcast DAPC to level 0xA0 and have set a long fade time (5.6 seconds.

There are multiple errors in your command listing

• msg 5 0xA370 would store 0x70 in DTR, presume you mean 0xA307
• msg 8 0x072E stores DTR as fade time in gear with short address 3. DTR 7 means fade time is 5.6 seconds. If you want 16s, DTR should be 10 = 0x0A.
• msg 3 & 4 & 10 Intialise and Terminate are only needed for the programming the short address commands (the randomise and binary search), not for setting configuration values like fade time and group addresses.
• msg 12 queries status of gear at short address 3.

I'd get rid of the extra messages, have one gear on the bus, use broadcast messages and command 146 so you don't even have to interpret bits, it's either responding or not. Frankly, the number of errors made in your amended question doesn't give me confidence in your code. However, since the gear is reporting to be on, a missing lamp should give you a lamp fail. It doesn't matter when the lamp was removed. There are many electronics causes for lamp fail to be reported, depending on the lamp technology. For fluorescent lamps it is not just current from one end to the other, it can be broken heater wires at one end or failure to start up after a defined strike period, or some other reason found when monitoring the currents and voltages of the tube.

Edit: now that the question is specifically about LEDs, IEC6236-207 is applicable.

Command 240 Query Features tells you if the gear supports such things as open circuit detection, load decrease detection, thermal shut down, current protection etc. If your gear tells you it doesn't detect open circuit or detection of load decrease (bits 1 and 2) then you are not going to get lamp fail detection from this gear. But if it does, you could determine which type of lamp failure had occurred with Command 251, Query Failure Status which responds with bit 1 for open circuit and bit 2 for load decrease.

Note that commands above 236 are Application Exended Query Commands which mean they need preceeding by Command 272 Enable Device Type with data 6 (for LEDs).

The response to Command 146 Query Lamp failure, and bit 1 in the response to Command 144 Query Status are the result of an OR operation on the bits 0 to 4 in the Failure Status reported in Command 241 Query Failure Status.

In summary, I think this particular gear does not detect lamp failure as an open circuit condition, and it probably doesn't detect lamp failure as other conditions either; you're query is correct but just not supported by the gear.

As you have found out, Command 269 Query Short Address only works if the gear is physically selected or the random address is equal to the search address, and only while the 15 minute initialise timer is running. This command is to be used during addressing. At other times, you can use any query which is sent using short addressed addressing to see if you get a response. Typically systems will use Command 145 Query Control Gear to see if there is a gear at that address. You may find it preferable to use Command 153 Query Device Type since you get a response that tells you more than whether there is a gear at that address, it tells you the type. Although there is Command 150 Query Missing Short Address, this would be no more useful in this situation than the other queries I mentioned if you sent it using short addressed mode, it is generally more useful in broadcast mode with only one gear on the line.

With any of these queries, you have to scan through all possible short addresses to see if you get a response. I would not recommend stopping as soon as you find a No because there is no requirement in DALI to keep the short addresses adjacent with no gaps.