Electronic – Does USB Power Delivery handle USB cables that are not PD-aware

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I think USB-PD is still fairly new (I don't know anyone who owns a device that has it) but reading wikipedia and info sites does not make it clear what happens when you use a cable that is out of spec in a USB-PD charging setup.

So if I have a host and device that are USB-PD compliant, and my device wants to use say a 12V profile, can I get away with using a normal USB cable? Or will it not charge or charge at a lower profile instead?

What about the edge case where I use the 5V profile at 2A. Technically that is out of spec also since USB BC1.2 is spec'd to 7.5W (1.5A), but many normal cables work fine with 2A in practice.

Best Answer

USB-PD only uses two wires (GND and VBUS), but the standard has the whole section (4.4 in 'USB_PD_R2_0 V1.0 - 20140807.pdf') which describes how the cable detection is implemented. In short, regular USB-A to USB-B cables need to have the special mechanical mark to be considered for >5V/>1.5A, while micro-usb send special signal on "ID" pin, and determines capabilities from that.

In theory, if you do not use special PD cable, then the devices will silently limit the maximum power to pre-PD levels, and all will be safe (at most 5V, 1.5A current).

In practice, I bet there will be manufacturers which produce very cheap cables which still claim to support maximum power, so we might still read about cheap cables catching fire.