Electronic – op-amp oscillators weird output

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I am trying to build a sine wave oscillator using opamp, but i am getting weird output. Need help getting pure sine wave output.

Circuit Schematic:
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Circuit Description:

The circuit is similar to regular 3 stage buffered RC phase shift oscillator (inspired from here). Op-amp U2B is added so that U1A amplifier resistor (R1, R2 & R3) have values in ten's of kilo-ohms (not 100's of Kohm). Oscillator Output is observed at U2B pin 7 (OUT). Two independent power supplies are connected as shown in schematic to get +15V / 0V / -15V.

R3 is used to vary amplifier gain. R4 & R5 are used to vary oscillator frequency.
Target Output Frequency is 400Hz.

Problem:
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  • Top Waveform : IC U2B pin 5 (Non-inverting Input) w.r.t. GND
  • Bottom Waveform : IC U2B pin 7 (Output) w.r.t. GND

The negative cycle of sine wave at U2B pin 7 (output) (Bottom Waveform) is distorted. This distortion is some kind of ripple/voltage oscilations. What is cause this? & How do I get rid of it?

So far I have tried:

  1. My first guess was that there is a problem in -15V power supply. So I interchanged the power supplies, but the distortion still remained in the negative cycle. (I expect if there was a problem with the power supply the distortion should have been in the positive cycle after interchanging the power supply)
  2. Changed IC U2 (LM358 Dual op-amp). Still the exact same distortion.
  3. Changed IC U1 (LM358 Dual op-amp). Still the exact same distortion.
  4. Added IC U3 as shown below.enter image description hereOutput at U3A pin 1 (Output) is a pure sine wave like Top Waveform (in oscilloscope). So i removed amplifier connection (R1) form U2B and connected it to U3A. Then U3A's output also got distorted like Bottom Waveform (in oscilloscope) and U2B's waveform became pure sine wave.
  5. Used IC U3B as shown below.enter image description hereAgain output at U3A pin 1 (Output) gets distorted.
  6. From the above schematic i removed U3B and only added a 1 Kohm load at U3A pin 1 (output), again the output is distorted but this time the distortion is lower.

The Question is a bit long, but I wanted to provide as much details as possible.
I have been cracking my head over this for two days. Please help.
TIA.

Edit:

  1. As Bimpelrekkie suggested in the comments I added one 100nF capacitor near each IC (dual-opamp) and also two 1uF capacitor between +15V / 0v and -15V / 0V. This had no effect on the distortion. I also added 22pf capacitor across R2 & R3. This reduced the the distortion but did not eliminate it as shown bellow:

Positive Cycle : No distortionenter image description here

Negetive Cycle : Reduced but still exist – distortionenter image description here
But this is not something I want to do as it affects the sine wave frequency.

Also something i did not mention earlier, i thought the variable resistors (preset) might be causing the problem, so shorted them ,but to no success.

EDIT 2: (Problem Solved)

After reading your comments and answers i tried the following:

  1. (Experiment 7) Olin Lathrop's & analogsystemsrf's (as mentioned in analogsystemsrf's answer the problem was about stability / phase margin but the output of U2B was not close to rails(+15V or -15V), it is 2V to 3V peak to peak centered at 0V) answers hinted me to understand stability and margins(tutorials). So i tried the circuit as given below:enter image description here
    The output was oscillating (so the distortion were oscillations as indicated by many of you guys) and it wasn't a stable DC output. So then i disconnected R13 from -15V and connected to +15V and the output was stable. So something was pushing the opamp in unstable region during the negative half cycle of the sine wave (i don't know what).

  2. (Experiment 8)So I Compensated the opamp using a snubber (as shown here). The final circuit is as shown below.enter image description here
    And BRAVO !! problem solved. The outputs are now stable (with no unwanted oscillations / distortions).

Now, Even though the problem is solved, the question now becomes..

  1. Why is LM358 stable at unity gains for positive voltages and not negative?
  2. Could these type of problems be avoided just by choosing a proper opamp? If yes , how do i choose a proper opamp?
  3. Is stability to be accounted (mathematically) for in all opamp circuits, or could intuitively (without calculations) decide that a circuit will be stable? (How?)
  4. U2B had stability issue, why didn't U1B or U2A have the same issue? (I checked the output of these opamps and found them to be stable/pure sine.)

Lastly I would like to thank each and everyone of you for helping me solve this.
Thank you very much!

Best Answer

You are probably sinking too much current. Here is a section of the TI LM358 datasheet: LM358 Assuming you have a swing of around 10V you will get a source/sink of around 10mA.

We like to think opamp behavior is independent on the output current, but this is not always the case. When your source/sink current increase the opamp performance deteriorates. So a stable opamp at 1mA can become unstable at 10mA.

Try to repeat your scenario 6 experiment but replace the 1k resistor with a 10k resistor instead.

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