Electronic – Oscillating system via negative feed back

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The Barkhausen criterion for system with positive feedback (being \$B(s)\$ the feedback network transfer function and \$A(s)\$ the gain network transfer function) afirms that for a system to keep oscillating without input signal and without loss, we need the poles of:

\$H(s) = \dfrac{A(s)}{1 – B(s)A(s)}\$

in the imaginary axes at the complex plane.That means there should be a solution to:

\$B(j \omega_o) \cdot A(j \omega_o) = 1\$

and ωo would be the oscillating frequency.

On the other hand, if i have a system with negative feedback (being B(s) the feedback network transfer function and A(s) the gain network transfer function), the overall transfer function will be:

\$H(s) = \dfrac{A(s)}{1+B(s)A(s)}\$

So, in order to have poles in the imaginary axis (no loss), I need a frequency ωd that solves:

\$B(\omega_d).A(\omega_d) = -1\$

That loop transfer function being -1, should mean that the sinusoidal input with frequency ωd wil be shifted by 180º and will keep the same amplitude after passing through the loop \$A(s).B(s)\$, then will be shifted by 180° again because of the negative feedback and will return to its original form to keep oscillating indefinitely.

It will also mean that the transfer function \$H(s)\$ will have infinity gain at d which is a requirement to keep a system living without any input signal. Isn't it enough to implement a oscillating system that will keep oscillating any sinusoidal with frequency ωd that enters the loop?

Why do we need positive feedback to implement an oscillating system ?

Best Answer

The answer is relatively simple: Each linear oscillator needs a loop gain of (at least) unity (unity magnitude and phase shift of zero deg) at one frequency only.

That means: We need a frequency-selective circuitry which can meet this condition at the desired frequency.

If we want to use a fixed gain stage (which is not always the case, we also can use integrators) we have two choices: inverting or non-inverting.

1.) Non-inverting (phase shift zero): The passive network must produce a phase shift of zero at the desired frequency (example: bandpass).

2.) Inverting (180 deg phase shift): The passive network must produce -180 deg at the desired frequency (example: three RC lowpass stages).

Answer to your final question: Why do we need positive feedback to implement an oscillating system ?

In order to avoid misinterpretations, I think that we should say: We need always a positive loop gain (of unity or - in practice - slightly larger) at the desired frequency. More than that - at the same time we need negative loop gain (negative feedback) for DC (stable bias point).