Electronic – Troubleshooting ready board with LM339 IC

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I thought, I will not bother any more with this project of mine, but I really run out of ideas trying to get it to work.

When using breadboard, the design works as expected (did it couple of times already), however, when I put it onto universal (3-track) PCB, it stopped to work.

I divided the testing into two parts: disconnected R8 to see if U1b generates sound. It does not. The breadboard setup was quickly done using the same pins and yes, it worked right away.

What I have done:

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  • measured "voltages" on 8, 9, 14 and compared (I am aware this is oscillating, so values are averages, I guess). Values were very similar.
  • touching pin 8 by finger actually produced repetitive sound on the PCB solution, while on the breadboard counterpart it added noises, otherwise reaction was similar.
  • checked if C1 is not shortcut, and trying another capacitor
  • U1a part also did not work, but I have not researched it extensively.
  • of course, checked continuity of all junctions and checked the schematics, more than once

The question is, what else can I try to pinpoint the problem or is it time to rework, for example, get IC out and check if it's still good? (I think, I was very careful and quick soldering IC with 350 deg.C iron, but…). I do not have an oscilloscope yet.

The picture of the board and breadboard is more an illustration, as connections aren't seen. The breadboard implements only oscillator part, but at prototyping stage I had both.

schematics
pcb vs breadboard

UPDATE: Solved by adding more resistance to Rload, thanks to Rafal Powierski.

UPDATE2: Datasheet for the comparator also advices to connect unused inputs to ground, as Spoon suggested.

Best Answer

Output stage might have insufficient current to drive low voltages, because of low resistance of speaker. For testing add a serial resistor 470 ohm ... 1k in series with speaker. Output stage drive capability is varying from chip to chip, depending on output transistor beta. (assume 6mA as minimum)

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