Electrical – LED on the collector without a base limiting resistor

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am a beginner trying to understand transistors.
I am using a npn transistor.

I have a 6V battery.

The base and collector are connected to 6V
Emitter has the load (LED + 100ohm resistor) to the ground.
Current passes and the LED lights up. I understand, it is in saturation mode.
With or without a base resistor.

Case 2:
The base is connected to 6V.
The collector has the load (LED + 100ohm resistor) connected to 6V as well.
Emitter is connected to the ground.
The LED does not light up when powered.

Case 3: Further to Case 2: I use a 1K resistance with the base and the LED lights up.

Why does not the LED light up in case 2?

This seems similar to Emitter Follower LED Circuit – LED in Collector, Resistor in Emitter, but I did not get the concept.

Thanks.

Best Answer

The LED does not light up because the B-E junction of the transistor is passing enough current to pull the 6V source down to <1V, which is too low to light the LED. It's amazing that the transistor doesn't burn out in this situation, but perhaps it's a rather beefy one, and your 6V supply has a relatively high impedance.