Electrical – Tesla coil help – Spark gap not arcing despite having 12 kV

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(I've searched these forums and the web and can't find anything that helps, so I apologize if I've missed something.)

I'm working on my first Tesla coil and am at a loss. This is what I've got going on. See the annotations in the diagram for descriptions of what I've found so far.

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

My first guess is that I've got a problem with the current being too low, but then again, it could be something totally different.

(Also, I started with an NST, but it had GFCI and I can't find a non-GFCI anywhere.)

Thanks in advance!

Updates:
– People had questions about the switch. I was using the switch to require two stages of activation, so that someone doesn't accidentally bump one switch and set the thing off. Switch has been removed.
– All grounds have been removed.
– Spark goes a bit over 1cm.
– A photo of the layout (below). Note: This is NOT where I use it. I had to put it away and just pulled it out long enough to lay things out for you to see how it looks.
This is NOT where I use it.  I had to put it away and just pulled it out long enough to lay things out for you to see how it looks.
Once I get it functional, I'm going to lay everything out very neatly and solder all connections.

Best Answer

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output so it can take its time to charge the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing. Otherwise, tune the MMC down to work with the iggy coil. Either way, you need to change the design.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists (archive) or 4HV (active) for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

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