Electronic – Confusion about the meaning of floating

floating

Here they define being floating as:

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They mention Ungrounded = Floating.

But in another forum someone wrote:

The signal is consider floating when it does not have the same ground
with your device. Earth has nothing to do with it. Earth is just
another ground.

I'm a bit confused with the meaning of floating. Is the source floating in the below system?:

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If it is not floating can you give an example of a system where the source ground is floating?

EDIT:

A floating source is connected to a differential amplifier. If I add a ground where the red arrow points the simulation circuit amplifies this signal very well. But if I don't use a ground the simulation corrupts.

In real do we really need a ground at that point or is this only needed in SPICE simulation? Because if I add a ground it is not floating anymore in the diagram. This is really confusing.

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EDIT 2:

Even more confusion.

I always encounter such circuit topology for differential amplifiers:

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Please notice that, above the input diff signals i.e the source and the diff. amplifier again share the same ground.

But when I look at the input terminals for a voltmeter or a diff. ended data acquisition board, there is no extra ground. There are inputs for -Vin and +Vin, but not GND.

Imagine now that I have a device which has an analog ground called AGND1 and this device has two differential outputs say 2V and -2V relative to its own AGND1. Now if I hook up its differential outputs to the voltmeter or a diff. ended DAQ board which has its own ground call it AGND2, we are facing a situation where AGND1 and AGND2 are not connected. But still these systems work as below:

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As you see in a typical voltmeter or diff ended. DAQ board connection we don't connect two sytems grounds AGND1 and AGND2.

So the diff. amplifier topology I encounter uses grounds common but in real the grounds are not connected.

This is also very confusing since I dont know where my lack of knowledge comes from.

Best Answer

Floating is a voltage term and, like any voltage, it must have a reference.

That is: "Object A can be floating with respect to object B."

If your shown circuit, both grounds are wired together, so the source, V1, is NOT floating with respect to the amplifier.

However, if this was a battery operated widget, with no other connection, the whole thing is floating with respect to the ground under your feet.

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

The following schematic on the other hand has a floating source.

schematic

simulate this circuit

BTW: Just to confuse you further, there is a whole other meaning of floating.

In the schematic below the two inputs A, and B are unconnected and we call that floating. In this case they are actually tied to ground through the pull-downs, but the left end is still considered as floating whether the pull-downs are there or not.

schematic

simulate this circuit