Electronic – Could a “non-dimmable” LED lamp be dimmed with PWM

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I have some experience with house wiring, and more recently gained some experience with 5mm RGB LEDs and an Ardiuno.

In that, I learned about PWM for dimming an LED.

I suspect that the standard wall dimmer an electrician installs is just a variable resistor. I could understand that doing weird stuff if there is some transformer or something in the non-dimmable led lamp.

I found that you can get solid state relays for an Ardiuno that can handle 250V AC and 2 amps. Since they are solid state, I suspect I could turn them on and off fast.

What happens if I PWM a standard "non-dimmable" LED lamp? Is there some complicated circuitry (that I don't yet understand or know of) that will interact poorly with a PWM power source?

(That does bring me to realize that for the PWM to work well, it should operate at a speed that doesn't have any weird "Lowest Common Multiple" effects with the AC supply that would be visible).

Best Answer

I suspect that the standard wall dimmer an electrician installs is just a variable resistor.

Incorrect. That would get very hot and waste power. Dimmers use triacs to adjust the fraction of time that the AC is allowed through.

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Figure 1. Phase angle control of AC used in standard incandescent lamp dimmers. As switch-on point is delayed power is reduced.

... you can get solid state relays ... Since they are solid state, I suspect I could turn them on and off fast.

You could turn them on once per mains half cycle. They would then remain on until the next zero-cross.

What happens if I PWM a standard "non-dimmable" LED lamp?

It will probably fail as the internal power supply is not designed for chopped supply voltage.

Is there some complicated circuitry (that I don't yet understand or know of) that will interact poorly with a PWM power source?

Yes, quite a bit of both.


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