Electronic – Diode transistor circuit logic

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So I've been doing some reseach on DTL ( Diode Transistor Logic ) and started doing some problems, but the problem i stumbled onto gives me some headache.
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The actual problem given is

Given a DTL circuit on the image, determine the logic function of the
circuit and the minimal value of resistance \$R_{Cmax}\$ in the
collector area of transistor so that the output transistor is
saturated. Known parameters : \$\beta_{min}=50\$,\$\beta=100\$,
\$V_{CC}=5V\$, \$V_{BET}=0.5V\$, \$V_{BES}=0.7V\$,
\$V_{BE}=V_D=0.6V\$, \$V_{CES}=0.2V\$

The data given is vague , so i assume

  • \$V_{BES}\$ – base-emitter voltage of the transistors in saturation mode
  • \$V_{BE}\$ – base-emitter voltage of the transistors
  • \$V_D\$ – voltage drop across the diodes
  • \$ V_{CES} \$ – collector emitter voltage in saturation

As for the logic circuit, i cant make any sensible logic function out it. I also can't see the purpose of the diode between the two transistors.
As for the calculations themselves, i remove the input diodes and try to solve the circuit. The circuit itself doesn't seem too difficult, but I'm not sure what is the required resistance. Also, what is the purpose of \$\beta_{min}\$ here?

Best Answer

Look at the following two schematics. On the left is where none of the inputs are present, or else they are all high and their diodes aren't conducting. On the right is where one or more of the input diodes are conducting. I've provided some voltages and currents to look at, and an explanation about why \$R_1\$ is present, as well.

I've taken the time here to re-arrange the schematic a little bit. The central reason is that I wanted to lay out the four diodes in a way that may help you see what is happening and why \$D_1\$ is there. The reason will become clear when we look at the right schematic (its not important for the left one.)

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

On the left, none of the input diodes are conducting. So the base of \$Q_1\$ is pulled up and will require a tiny base current (and therefore a tiny voltage drop across \$R_4\$.) The voltage at the base of \$Q_1\$ is figured out by working upward from the emitter of \$Q_2\$, which is at \$0V\$. Since both BJTs are on (just follow the path from \$R_3\$ and to \$R_4\$, through the base-emitter of \$Q_1\$, through \$D_1\$, and then through the base-emitter of \$Q_2\$) the base of \$Q_2\$ will be pulled up to about \$750mV\$ or so. \$D_1\$ will add another \$700mV\$ or so. Then \$Q_2\$'s base-emitter adds another .. maybe \$700mV\$ to that. I got about \$2.15V\$, but it will actually probably be a little less than that, as I over estimated the voltages by a small bit.) This means that about \$1.6mA\$ will be rushing through \$R_3\$, almost all of which must go through the collector of \$Q_1\$. The tiny base current needed for \$Q_1\$ will leave a tiny voltage drop across \$R_4\$. But not much.

All this means is that \$Q_2\$ will be driven into hard saturation with about \$1.6mA\$ into its base-emitter. The output will be able to sink up to about 10-20 times that much. Which means it can sink a lot. It may need to, as you will soon see (as to why) in the right schematic.

In the right schematic, one or more of the diodes are pulled "down." Their voltage value at the cathode end will be near zero, but I've allowed for some hundreds of millivolts there and called it "LO." So the the anode of these diodes will be pulled down close to ground. This means that \$R_3\$ and \$R_4\$ now form a divider and will need to sink about \$1mA\$ into those diodes.

(Which is why I mentioned that the left schematic may need to sink a fair amount of current. If each circuit driven low by the left schematic needs to sink \$1mA\$, then driving 5 inputs would need to sink \$5mA\$, etc. It adds up fast.)

Now in the right schematic, you can see that with the base of \$Q_1\$ set to perhaps as much as \$1V\$, it would be possible for \$Q_2\$'s base to be at some halfway-point between \$1V\$ and \$0V\$. If there were \$500mV\$ each, let's say, then both of the transistors might still be ON. This would NOT be good. So \$D_1\$ is inserted there to make SURE to soak up enough voltage to ensure that the combined base-emitter junctions of \$Q_1\$ and \$Q_2\$ can't see much remaining voltage to share. Far, far too little to do any damage, anyway.

Suppose there still is a very tiny current there. Just as a what-if. Well, this tiny current will present a very tiny drop across \$R_1\$ and therefore the base of \$Q_2\$ will still be practically at \$0V\$ and solidly OFF. Even if \$Q_1\$ is still just slightly conducting, it won't turn on \$Q_2\$. So, in effect, \$Q_1\$ and \$Q_2\$ will both be OFF and this allows \$R_2\$ to pull up the output to \$V_{CC}\$.

The right circuit cannot source much current, as \$R_2\$ is all there is for that. But luckily, when diodes are all OFF, they don't need much. So that works okay, too.