Electronic – Do working electrical engineers in circuit design ever use textbook formulas for rise time, peak time, settling time, etc

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This is a very general question. In undergrad electrical engineering, students are usually taught about step response to LC (second order) circuits.

This is usually when many parameters are introduced, some of which are

  • rise time
  • peak time
  • percentage overshoot
  • settling time

The definition of these could be found in various sources, such as wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settling_time

and detailed formulas exist for many of these quantities
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mechanical-engineering/2-004-dynamics-and-control-ii-spring-2008/lecture-notes/lecture_21.pdf

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/x/jxl77/courses/ee380_fa09/ee380_slides3.pdf

I do not have an extensive circuit design background, I am guessing that these parameters can be used as rule of thumb to calculate system transfer function, or location of poles, etc. I have no idea how they can be used in reality.

Can working electrical engineers in circuit design comment on the practical usefulness of these parameters? Or are these parameters found by some algorithm that is used in design process?

Many thanks!

Best Answer

Short answer - In 20 years I haven't done so once.

Longer answer:
It depends a lot on the field you're working in.

Do you have to worry about rise times, fall times etc... Yes. Not for every signal, in fact you normally only care about them for a tiny fraction of signals. Knowing which ones matter is an important part of the job.

But for the ones that do matter the formulas in the book are fairly useless, they are great for a first pass approximation but if a rough approximation is good enough it's probably not a signal that's too critical to start with. Any real world circuit is far too complex to analyse in detail by hand, instead you run a simulation rather than using the formula in the book and the simulator already knows the formulas.
So the book formulas are good because then you understand what the simulator is doing behind the scenes and the assumptions and limitations in what it is doing. There is a lot to be said for having an appreciation of what your tools are doing in the background, if nothing else it helps figure out why they break or complain about things when they do. But you don't need to remember or even be able to work through the maths that is going on behind the curtain.

And then ultimately no matter what the simulator tells you after you've build it you check in the real world because as the saying goes in theory theory and practice are the same. In practice they aren't.

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