Electronic – How to gauge safety of cheap Lipo batteries

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I see a ton of cheap 12V lipo batteries for sale on Ebay, but other than the mAh rating, I can't find any info or datasheets on how to safely operate them. I'm looking for a good battery to power a couple of small gear motors, so I'd like to know the maximum safe continuous discharge rate. I've emailed several of these retailers, which all seem to be based in China, and everyone one of them has basically said, "sorry, we don't know". These batteries are interesting in that they include a compact built-in charging circuit, and I'm no where near confident enough to design my own. However, the lack of documentation makes me nervous.

Are these cheap Chinese batteries junk, or can they be used safely? Is there somewhere that provides a basic datasheet for them?

A lot of guides I've read on how to safely use lipo batteries read like you're handling a bomb that might explode at any moment. e.g. "never leave unattended" and "always store in a fireproof container". Are these concerns still justified? A lot of cellphones and laptops include these batteries and don't come with similar warnings. I just don't want to plug in one of these Chinese batteries to charge overnight and wake-up to a house fire.

Best Answer

I have randomly purchased several of these relatively cheap lithium ion batteries from ebay, originating from China. I have a fairly high quality battery charger/analyzer that I use to test these batteries.

They have all been the advertised voltage, but he capacity is nowhere near what they claim. A 5000 mAh battery tested at 333maH. Another 5000 mAh (claimed 5000 mAh) battery came in at 571 mAh. Clearly these inexpensive batteries are closer to 1/10 the claimed capcity. I have managed to get a refund when I complained to the seller.

I saw a video on YouTube where a person took an 18650 battery bought off of ebay from China (that had a tested capacity significantly lower than claimed) and he took the battery apart. Inside was a minature battery that looked like a triple 'A' battery surrounded by a powder that looked like flour!

In other words you get what you pay for. From my experience, it appears as though batteries manufactured in Japan tend to be of higher quality/capacity, although that can change quickly. If the battery you are looking at has a 'C' and mAh rating, then you might be able to get a refund from ebay if the battery doesn't perform as advertised. Today's lithium batteries appear to be relatively safe as long as you don't use them beyond the abilities or 'C' rating. Fire proof boxes are not necessary for storage, but recommendations from manufacturers still tend to include the instruction to "not leave the battery charging unattended". I suspect that this has to do with the fact that there are a lot of really cheap and poorly made chargers that potentially slightly overcharge the battery (usually through trickle charging which you should not do with lithium ion) which is what leads to fires and explosions.