Electronic – LED with built-in resistor and voltage drop

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I accidentally bought 12 V LEDs, so an LED with a built-in resistor (you can see it as a black dot on the anode).
Now I measured the voltage and get after the LED still a voltage of 11.3 V, when the LED is supplied with 12.5 V from a power supply.

I find this strange, because usually the resistor will drop the voltage so far that the LED gets its 1.7 – 2.0 V. So after the LED should be only 1.7 V or am I wrong?

Where is my thinking error or are the LEDs with series resistor internally connected in parallel?

Shouldn't that be the same circuits, just one had the resistor inside the LED and the other one has the resistor before the LED?

Edit: Of course I'm measuring this way, I'm sorry

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Best Answer

Your battery, LED and voltmeter are all in parallel.

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Figure 1. You're not measuring the voltage "after" (or "before") the LED. You are measuring the voltage across the LED-resistor combination.

In this circuit it is the same as measuring the supply voltage.

To measure the LED voltage you would need to do this:

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Figure 2. To measure the LED voltage in your 12 V LED would require some delicate surgery.

Now I measured the voltage and get after the LED still a voltage of 11.3V, when the LED is supplied with 12.5V from a power supply.

That means that your 12 V supply is drooping. To confirm this connect your voltmeter to the battery and monitor while you switch the LED on and off.

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Figure 3. Measuring the voltage in series with the LED gives no useful information.

In this situation the voltmeter presents a series resistance of (typically) 10 MΩ in series with the 1.2 kΩ of the LED. Since the meter's resistance is 10,000 times that of the LED resistor almost all the voltage is dropped across it rather than the LED.

If you wish to do something useful then switch your meter to mA and use Figure 3 to measure the current through the LED. Remember to switch back to V when finished. If you forget and connect it up as shown in Figure 1 you will pass a high current through the meter and blow the fuse if it has one and blow the meter if it hasn't.