Electronic – Low voltage warning with PNP

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I have seen a few examples of a low voltage warning LED using two NPN transistors, like this;

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My question is, can this be simplified further using only one PNP transistor, if R2 were a value so that the PNP base current was low enough the transistor would be 'on' below a set voltage? Something like this;

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Best Answer

No. For the PNP transistor to turn on, it's Base Voltage needs to be it's VB-E Forward Drop. For a typical Silicon Transistor, that's 0.6~0.7V. In your proposed circuit, the Base is held high through R2, and at no point will ever go lower than it. So it will not turn on.