I would like to remove the n27 sockets from household light fixtures and replace them with LED lights used in the automotive industry. I would like to put a reasonable amount of LEDs in the fixture to provide commensurate light of say, a 100 watt bulb. I would like to have a light in every room (7) and run them off of a 12v battery charged by PV. Obviously wired seperate from the AC system which will be abandoned. My question is do I have to regulate amperage. If how or what do I do that with, do I need it for each light fixture? If not you're my new favorite.
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For Problem 1:
A string of LEDs hooked up in series with a current regulator like SuperTex CL220 would do the trick: The component is a simple a 2-terminal device (like a diode) and needs no additional components or configuration. It allows 20 mA (+/-10%) current to pass through as long as there is sufficient voltage headroom: 5 volts above the total forward voltage of the LEDs is sufficient. This current regulation is stable up to 160 volts, enough for your purposes.
Note that LEDs are current-dependent rather than voltage dependent devices. They glow at essentially the same brightness as long as the current is constant.
For your application, if the LEDs need to start glowing from around 60 Volts, half the 120 Volts your students generate, then a string of 25-30 standard 5-mm red LEDs would be optimal. They would glow without intensity change till your maximum voltage.
Too many LEDs = they won't glow till a higher voltage.
Too few LEDs = the CL220 device would overheat in dissipating the surplus voltage.
For Problem 2: The extent of energy storage required to keep a string of around 25 LEDs (from above section) glowing for even half a minute, is pretty high. Capacitors would not be the way to go, unless you have access to big power-line capacitors through surplus channels.
- Your capacitor bank would need to provide 20 mA at a minimum of 60 volts (again from above section), for "a few" seconds.
- Capacitor needs to be rated for a voltage higher than the highest the generator could conceivably generate.
- Though "supercapacitor" is a popular term these days, typical supercaps are rated for 5.5 Volts or 12 Volts, not hundreds of Volts.
- Adding in buck/boost generator trickery to make this work would result in complexity far beyond using a battery and off-the-shelf charger.
I hope this helped.
To do a "perfect job" LEDs MUST be current driven.
In this case it happens that 16 in series driven by a 48V fixed voltage supply will probably work OK BUT power level will be uncertain and may vary widely with different LEDs. In some cases, doing what you propose would destroy LEDs in some cases, but in this case they should always be "in spec".
You do not say what light output you want or what you expect or what you are replacing. All these matter.
The hlh-120h-48V is specified at 2.5A. This MAY mean it limits sharply at 2.5A but it MAY provide 3A or 3.5A either at 48V or at a reduced voltage. If we assume that it makes 2.5A max then the LEDs will make ABOUT 2.5A x 3 = 7.5W each IF they are driven to the full 2.5A. They are rated at 3A max so 2.5A would be acceptable if they were properly heatsunk. The LED will very roughly radiate 1/3 of its power as light so 16 on one heatsink will dissipate 2.5A x 3V x 16 x 2/3 dissipated = 80 Watts.
Each LED will have an internal temperature rise at 2.5 C/W of about
dT = 7.5W x 2.5 C/W =~ 20C less any reduction due to light radiation.
Design operating temperature is Tj=85C to Tc (or Tsolder) is about 85-20 = 65C (too hot to touch.) Use Tambient of 20C (coolroom but be safish) so Tca = 65-20 = 45C. Heatsink must dissipate 80W so C/W of heatsink needs to be < 45/80 or around 0.5 C/W. That is mnot a minor heatsink!. You need either a VERY substantial Al molding, or bolt to some large metal surface or use blown air (or flowing liquid) cooling. If the lights obly ever operate when the coolroom is cool you can relax that spec BUT you must design for worst case.
The Xm-L is not the most efficient LEd available from Cree or other sources. At the time the data sheet was printed it was the most efficient SINGLE DIE LED that Cree made but you do not need a single die LED (used to ensure precise optical source), and you can get Cree LEDs that give approaching 200 l/W for top flux bin parts. The XM-L2 is specified at about 105 l/W so you should be able to get say 150+ l/W from some other LEDS. Note that l/W efficiency falls as I_:ED approaches maximum. The datasheet shows that at 3A the XM-L2 is only 88% as efficient as at 1A.
The XM-L2 has a typical Vf (forward voltage) of about 3.2V at 2.5A (datasheet page 2 interpolated and page 5 on graph).
AT 3V Vf I_LED is about 1.3A (datasheet page 5)
So if you used a 48V supply and placed 16 in series for mean Vf = 3.0V then I_LED typical = 1.3A. This is about half of what your supply can provide and about 40% of LED maximum. To get say the full 3A you need 3.3 V/LED typical and perhaps 3.6V worst case. LEDs from one batch tend to 'clump' and you would tend to get most high or most low or whatever. To operate 16 x 3.3V needs ~= 53V or if 48V is used you can operate <= Vsupply/_V_LED = 48/3.3 = 14.5 LEDs = 14 LEDs. If VLED =3.6V in all cases you can operate <= 48V/3.6 = 13 LEDs.
The A type supplies are current adjustable and MAY be suitable as CC sources for LED driving as they stand. If not, you can make a N Amp constant current source using eg an LM350 and a few resistors and caps and suitable heatsinking. Vheadroom ~= 2.5V say so with a 48V supply you can operate (48-2.5)/3.3 = 13 LEDs down to (48-2.5)/3.6 = 12 LEDs.
If you have 12 LEDs and get a batch that have mean Vf of 3.3V then CC voltage drop is (48-(3.3 x 12)) = 48V - 39.6V = 8.4V.
Dissipation at 2.5A in CC is 8.4 x 2.5 = 21 Watts - An LM350 would need good heatsinking to handle this.
A CC supply which regulates the supply current but does not use a linear dropper resistor is desirable.
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If the lamps are designed for 12V automotive use, then no current limiting is required. Simply connect a small cluster of them in place of each 100W lamp.
You will need to work out how many 12V lamps you need to replace each 100W lamp. Try to source decent quality ones that have a quoted lumens rating.
While you don't need a current limiter, do put a fuse in the circuit near the battery. A 12V battery can easily put out enough current to melt your house wiring if you accidentally short something out. The fuse needs to match the current rating of your house wiring and the switches used.
There is a risk that large numbers of 12V lamps will end up exceeding the current rating of your wiring. In that case, you will have to split it into several circuits, each with its own fuse.