Electronic – OP Amp output voltage half

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I'm using an LM358 to learn how to use op amps, I asked a question and everyone referred me to books so I've been reading up on that, but whenever I try to use them I never actually get a boost. Today I tried using this setup below but I only got -(1/2)Vin = Vout. I don't have much to work with so I'm using Vcc+ = 2.4v and Vcc- = -2.4v. RG = RG = 10K Vin = 1.2v. In this case Vout = -.6v, when I tried other resistances it didn't really match the -RF/RG equation. I'm probably not reading the data sheet right or the resistances aren't high enough. Not sure what's wrong. enter image description here

Best Answer

Congratulations on being keen enough t0 learn by experimenting!

The LM358 / LM324 have an input common mode range of Vcc+ - 1.5V.
This means Vin on either input needs to be 1.5V or more below Your V+ supply.
This is specified in the data sheet.

In this case V+ is 2.4V wrt ground.
2.4 V - 1.5 V = 0.9V wrt ground.
This is the highest that either input can be at without violating the Vcn constraint.
Your Vin of 1.2V exceeds this :-(.

Easier on the brain MAY be to start by operating the amplifier as a single supply amplifier with Vcc+ = 4.8V (5v?) and Vcc- = ground.
Then try a non inverting amplifier

  • Input to In+,
  • Rf1 from out to In- and
  • Rf2 from in - to ground.
    Gain = (Rf1+Rf2)/Rf2.

This makes all signal referenced to ground (Vcc-) and stays away from the Vcm_max limit initially.

Then try inverting amplifiers (as per your example) by biasing In+ above ground by say 1V with a resistive divider.