Electronic – OpAmp: Better to actively attenuate, or drive full range into a divider

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I want to get a +-15V differential signal (60Vp-p) into an ADC that has a single 3.3V supply. When I asked a friend to proofread it, he was concerned about the noise performance of R5-R6 vs. using R1-R4 to make U2A output the desired level to start with:

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My understanding is that an opamp's noise level does not depend on signal level, therefore a hotter signal is better. So I only attenuated U2A enough to match the full input range and left the rest to R5-R6.

(Another benefit is that if something goes wrong and U2A becomes a comparator, then the ADC input is still within the limits. Probably not likely, but possible.)

My friend thinks I would actually have less noise by putting all the attenuation in R1-R4, deleting R5-R6, and driving C1 directly. Is this true?

Best Answer

I assume that 6K is intended to represent the input impedance of the ADC, so it doesn't contribute noise.

The R5/R6 combination contributes 2.0nV/sqrt(Hz) at the ADC input. The output of the op-amp has noise of about 18nV/sqrt(Hz) (mostly due to Johnson noise in the resistors), so about 1.9nV/sqrt(Hz) at the divider output, or a total of 2.8nV/sqrt(Hz) at the ADC input. In other words the two contributions are similar (divider and amplifier).

I encourage you to do a full noise analysis and look at the various contributions individually. Since they add in quadrature, the magnitudes of the squared values are important. This Analog Devices paper gives you the information you need.

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I may have made an error, but when I do the analysis with an attenuator made with 10K/546.5 ohm resistors rather than 10K/5K and no divider (gain is 0.0546 in both cases), I get a noise for your circuit of 51nV/sqrt(Hz) referred to the input of the diffamp vs. 119nV/sqrt(Hz) for the no-divider circuit, corresponding to 2.8nV/sqrt(Hz) vs. 6.49nV/sqrt(Hz) at the ADC input.

All this stuff refers to the region above the voltage and current noise corners, of course, which should be valid for most of the audio spectrum (but it never seems to be for the stuff I do).