Can anyone tell me how to make a simple electric shocking device (like a electric pen or hand buzzer style). I've seen people use piezoelectric elements from lighters (is that correct?) but I would like to know how to create one from scratch, and also what current and voltage is needed to give a small shock. Thanks, ell.
Electronic – Simple Electric Shock Device
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Yes, existance proof of such devices are already available on the street.
Many ignitors work on the priciple of applying a mechanical shock to a piezo crystal, which then produces a high enough voltage to cause a spark. Look at things like barbecue ignitors.
There are also butane lighters with a long (6 inch maybe) stock. These aren't for cigarettes, but for lighting fires. They typically have a gun-like trigger. When squeezed it opens a valve for the butane to flow, and also activates a mechanical mechanism that slaps a piezo crystal. The high voltage is transferred by wire to the tip where it causes a spark and ignites the butane.
There are other methods used in these types of ignitors so you have to look carefully, but the piezo method is actually quite common nowadays.
Where to start?
First, your HV unit is not a transformer. It is a high-voltage module. It puts out a pulsing high voltage.
So, the high voltage transformer was made to make arcs, and as such does not allow ... a no-load situation.
You are correct. Your capacitor will store charge and will destroy your module. Furthermore, you have taken the input power specification, (and it would be nice if you would share with us where you got the numbers) of 18 watts at 4.5 volts, and then calculated an output power of 18 watts/20 kv, giving .9 mA. This is wrong. Input power does not equal output power.
You have also failed to notice the part of the description that reads
Work: Input voltage 1.5V ~ 3V can work for about 1 minute, the input voltage exceeds 3V continuous work does not allow more than 30 seconds
In other words, you will not be able to run your unit for more than 30 seconds at a time. And it doesn't say how long you need to let the unit recover from 30 seconds operation, either.
Having failed to understand your HV unit, you have equally failed to understand your water capacitor. To begin with, ultrapure water is does not have an infinite resistivity. It is, in fact, 18 Mohm-cm. For your described capacitor, this amounts to ~ 2 Mohm. At 20 kV, that will require 10 mA which you cannot provide. You mention a "coating on the plates" which you believe will prevent current flow, but you do not describe it, and I hope you will forgive my suspicion that it may not work as you plan.
You speak of your desire not to break down the dielectric (the water) and then talk about how pulsing or AC voltages will avoid this. You seem to be unaware that the breakdown potential for pure water is ~3 MV/m. Since the spacing for your capacitor is on the order of 12.5 mm, the breakdown voltage will be ~ 37 kV, or twice your voltage, and you have no need to worry.
Given the dielectric constant of water (80), the effective capacitance of your capacitor will be ~ 100 pF. Since your module has a diode in its output, you are correct in thinking that you will get just a DC output, since there is no major discharge path. You cannot discharge your capacitor from the input side. Any such discharge mechanism would have to be synchronized with the HV pulses, and would have to withstand 20 kV. Such a circuit will be neither simple nor cheap.
Your selection of series resistor is very strange. Your calculation for voltage drop make it clear that you have used the input figure of 4.5 amps, and this has absolutely no application to the output.
So, overall, I have no way give you advice, except to suggest that you do something else. I don't see any instance where you seem to actually understand how your proposed circuit would work, or why, and that is not a good starting point.
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This is actually quite a simple circuit which works by stepping up the collapse of a magnetic field in a small audio transformer.
The schematic looks like this:
I think something like this part should work for the transformer.
If you touch the two output wires, you'll get a very small electric shock as you release the push button.