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I've got a phone line on the blue pair, and VDSL on the brown pair. Leaving the orange and green pairs available.
But when I try and connect a router in one room, and a laptop in the other room, I don't get a connection and also the phone line goes off. VDSL stays on.
Why is it even touching the blue pair? I thought Ethernet only used the green and orange pairs. Or have I got something wired incorrectly? I haven't seen any indication that I have.
Like Dave said, you need to detect the state of the phone, and you need to send ringing voltage /24 VAC should do fine, but I needed 48 VAC for some Panasonic phones/, then you have to trip this voltage off as soon as someone has picked up the phone...comes out lot of logic for what looks like simple task, hard to do without micro.
I have actually designed exactly what you need, long time ago, it was even a commercial product, but it's long history know. I was thinking of making it public anyway, but it is a bit over designed, we used the current loop for phone supply (and it was a bad choice of uC). You might find some parts useful, or try to replace the micro with some simpler logic while taking the phone supply, of / on hook detector and some other stuff from our design (us as 'me and my good friend Mario', his part was FW and analog HW design, my part was CPU HW design, PCB design, testing, and documentation).
Here you can see the circuit reponsible for powering the phone, line state detection (on/off hook, but also the pulse dialing detection), ring voltage control, everything regarding the single phone. You could build two of those circuits, and you have got yourself an intercom, but with many options you might not need :-).
I can post the complete schematic, code everything, if anyone was still interested for analog phones made useful. Personally, I still use similar switch at home. And yes, our exchange (two designers, remember?) has four internal extensions, one external line, phones galvanically isolated from the external line, 'do not disturb' mode, distinct ringing for internal and external line...and many more options pushed into 4K of PIC assembler code. It has got also a complete users manual (in Croatian only ;-) )
A should mentioned that phones were interconnected using the analog crosspoint switch, not relays or discrete components. Music on hold was for example also routed to the relevant phone through the crosspoint patrix, as well as the dial internal dial tone, ring tone, external party...
I should make some open hardware / open source product out of it. Bad news? I have mentioned the micro. PIC16C57, all assembler, it was nightmare /my friend has pulled it off, micro choice was mine which was as stupid as it could be considering I was already familiar with 8051, and the price of a micro was not relevant anyway. If we designed in the 8051 back than, it would have 64K Flash today in a same DIP package. May be you could do it now ;-)). The boards are separate, so even Arduino could be used for the CPU :-)
You can wire your RJ45s with this cable using:
White/Yellow, Yellow, White/Black, Red, Wite/Red, Black, White/Purple, Purple
However, this is not ethernet-spec cat5/cat5e/cat6, so you should expect faulty performance at best. In ethernet-spec cabling, the pairs (bonded in cat6 & some cat5e) have specific twist-ratios that are 'tuned' for the signal they're supposed to carry.
In addition, the gauge/alloy of the wires & quality of the insulation is spec'd for correct performance as well.
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Many ethernet devices short out the unused pairs. So if you want to use those pairs for something else you need to make sure you don't connect them to the ethernet device.
Also regarding your comment on the other answer you don't want to have any wires branching off the pairs you are using for ethernet. Even if that branch doesn't go anywhere it will still do horrible things to the signal integrity.
Finally note that while 10BASE-T and 100BASE-TX only use two pairs 1000BASE-TX uses all four pairs.