Why does Windows CA Server issue multiple certificates for the same user

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I am currently implementing an EAP/TLS WIFI implementation to replace our EAP/MSCHAP2 wifi implementation. I am using Windows Server 2008 and I've installed a certificate authority. User certificates are pushed using group policy. A wireless network policy is pushed using group policy as well. Everything works fine and connecting to wifi all works on the clients.

I did notice that the CA server creates a new user certificate for every device that logs on to the domain. So, let's assume you have 2 laptops and they both logon to the domain as the same user, they will both have a unique user certificate that is installed. Even though it all works fine and this does not cause any problems, I am really wondering what the whole idea behind this is.

I would expect that every user has 1 certificate and if a new device logs on to the domain, the same certificate will be issued. If a laptop gets stolen, it's easy to revoke the user certificate and create a new one. In the current scenario I need to figure out which certificate needs to be revoked and that feels wrong to me. People mentioned to me, that this gives more "enterprise" flexibility, however, I still don't see the point. If you want to have multiple user certificates for whatever reason (i.e. use them for different scenarios), this can easily be solved using a different sub ca and that feels like a proper solution to me. In addition to that, certificates are used to authenticate an user. If you would implement the same reasoning/logic using username/password systems (i.e. every laptop has a different password for the same user) people would think that this is very stupid.

So, I am missing the whole point of this. Can someone clarify why this is? Is it possible to implement this in a way that the CA will reissue the same certificate to every device that authenticates to the domain using the same user name?

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I'm going to hypothesize that you're not using Roaming User Profiles, AppData Folder Redirection, or Credential Roaming in your environment. These features would allow the users' certificates to "follow" them as they move between computers. Because you're not using any of these features it's necessary for new certificates to be created. The old certificates can't be "re-issued" because the private key isn't present on the subsequent computer that the user is using.

I'd read-up on the three methods for "roaming" credentials between client computers to see which one will work best in your environment.

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Certificate – What is a PEM File and How Does it Differ from Other OpenSSL Key Formats?

SSL has been around for long enough you'd think that there would be agreed upon container formats. And you're right, there are. Too many standards as it happens. In the end, all of these are different ways to encode Abstract Syntax Notation 1 (ASN.1) formatted data — which happens to be the format x509 certificates are defined in — in machine-readable ways.

.csr - This is a Certificate Signing Request. Some applications can generate these for submission to certificate-authorities. The actual format is PKCS10 which is defined in RFC 2986. It includes some/all of the key details of the requested certificate such as subject, organization, state, whatnot, as well as the public key of the certificate to get signed. These get signed by the CA and a certificate is returned. The returned certificate is the public certificate (which includes the public key but not the private key), which itself can be in a couple of formats.
.pem - Defined in RFC 1422 (part of a series from 1421 through 1424) this is a container format that may include just the public certificate (such as with Apache installs, and CA certificate files /etc/ssl/certs), or may include an entire certificate chain including public key, private key, and root certificates. Confusingly, it may also encode a CSR (e.g. as used here) as the PKCS10 format can be translated into PEM. The name is from Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM), a failed method for secure email but the container format it used lives on, and is a base64 translation of the x509 ASN.1 keys.
.key - This is a (usually) PEM formatted file containing just the private-key of a specific certificate and is merely a conventional name and not a standardized one. In Apache installs, this frequently resides in /etc/ssl/private. The rights on these files are very important, and some programs will refuse to load these certificates if they are set wrong.
.pkcs12 .pfx .p12 - Originally defined by RSA in the Public-Key Cryptography Standards (abbreviated PKCS), the "12" variant was originally enhanced by Microsoft, and later submitted as RFC 7292. This is a password-protected container format that contains both public and private certificate pairs. Unlike .pem files, this container is fully encrypted. Openssl can turn this into a .pem file with both public and private keys: openssl pkcs12 -in file-to-convert.p12 -out converted-file.pem -nodes

A few other formats that show up from time to time:

.der - A way to encode ASN.1 syntax in binary, a .pem file is just a Base64 encoded .der file. OpenSSL can convert these to .pem (openssl x509 -inform der -in to-convert.der -out converted.pem). Windows sees these as Certificate files. By default, Windows will export certificates as .DER formatted files with a different extension. Like...
.cert .cer .crt - A .pem (or rarely .der) formatted file with a different extension, one that is recognized by Windows Explorer as a certificate, which .pem is not.
.p7b .keystore - Defined in RFC 2315 as PKCS number 7, this is a format used by Windows for certificate interchange. Java understands these natively, and often uses .keystore as an extension instead. Unlike .pem style certificates, this format has a defined way to include certification-path certificates.
.crl - A certificate revocation list. Certificate Authorities produce these as a way to de-authorize certificates before expiration. You can sometimes download them from CA websites.

In summary, there are four different ways to present certificates and their components:

PEM - Governed by RFCs, used preferentially by open-source software because it is text-based and therefore less prone to translation/transmission errors. It can have a variety of extensions (.pem, .key, .cer, .cert, more)
PKCS7 - An open standard used by Java and supported by Windows. Does not contain private key material.
PKCS12 - A Microsoft private standard that was later defined in an RFC that provides enhanced security versus the plain-text PEM format. This can contain private key and certificate chain material. Its used preferentially by Windows systems, and can be freely converted to PEM format through use of openssl.
DER - The parent format of PEM. It's useful to think of it as a binary version of the base64-encoded PEM file. Not routinely used very much outside of Windows.

I hope this helps.

OpenSSL – Certification Authority Root Certificate Expiry and Renewal

Keeping the same private key on your root CA allows for all certificates to continue to validate successfully against the new root; all that's required of you is to trust the new root.

The certificate signing relationship is based on a signature from the private key; keeping the same private key (and, implicitly, the same public key) while generating a new public certificate, with a new validity period and any other new attributes changed as needed, keeps the trust relationship in place. CRLs, too, can continue over from the old cert to the new, as they are, like certificates, signed by the private key.

So, let's verify!

Make a root CA:

openssl req -new -x509 -keyout root.key -out origroot.pem -days 3650 -nodes

Generate a child certificate from it:

openssl genrsa -out cert.key 1024
openssl req -new -key cert.key -out cert.csr

Sign the child cert:

openssl x509 -req -in cert.csr -CA origroot.pem -CAkey root.key -create_serial -out cert.pem
rm cert.csr

All set there, normal certificate relationship. Let's verify the trust:

# openssl verify -CAfile origroot.pem -verbose cert.pem
cert.pem: OK

Ok, so, now let's say 10 years passed. Let's generate a new public certificate from the same root private key.

openssl req -new -key root.key -out newcsr.csr
openssl x509 -req -days 3650 -in newcsr.csr -signkey root.key -out newroot.pem
rm newcsr.csr

And.. did it work?

# openssl verify -CAfile newroot.pem -verbose cert.pem
cert.pem: OK

But.. why? They're different files, right?

# sha1sum newroot.pem
62577e00309e5eacf210d0538cd79c3cdc834020  newroot.pem
# sha1sum origroot.pem
c1d65a6cdfa6fc0e0a800be5edd3ab3b603e1899  origroot.pem

Yes, but, that doesn't mean that the new public key doesn't cryptographically match the signature on the certificate. Different serial numbers, same modulus:

# openssl x509 -noout -text -in origroot.pem
        Serial Number:
            c0:67:16:c0:8a:6b:59:1d
...
            RSA Public Key: (1024 bit)
                Modulus (1024 bit):
                    00:bd:56:b5:26:06:c1:f6:4c:f4:7c:14:2c:0d:dd:
                    3c:eb:8f:0a:c0:9d:d8:b4:8c:b5:d9:c7:87:4e:25:
                    8f:7c:92:4d:8f:b3:cc:e9:56:8d:db:f7:fd:d3:57:
                    1f:17:13:25:e7:3f:79:68:9f:b5:20:c9:ef:2f:3d:
                    4b:8d:23:fe:52:98:15:53:3a:91:e1:14:05:a7:7a:
                    9b:20:a9:b2:98:6e:67:36:04:dd:a6:cb:6c:3e:23:
                    6b:73:5b:f1:dd:9e:70:2b:f7:6e:bd:dc:d1:39:98:
                    1f:84:2a:ca:6c:ad:99:8a:fa:05:41:68:f8:e4:10:
                    d7:a3:66:0a:45:bd:0e:cd:9d
# openssl x509 -noout -text -in newroot.pem
        Serial Number:
            9a:a4:7b:e9:2b:0e:2c:32
...
            RSA Public Key: (1024 bit)
                Modulus (1024 bit):
                    00:bd:56:b5:26:06:c1:f6:4c:f4:7c:14:2c:0d:dd:
                    3c:eb:8f:0a:c0:9d:d8:b4:8c:b5:d9:c7:87:4e:25:
                    8f:7c:92:4d:8f:b3:cc:e9:56:8d:db:f7:fd:d3:57:
                    1f:17:13:25:e7:3f:79:68:9f:b5:20:c9:ef:2f:3d:
                    4b:8d:23:fe:52:98:15:53:3a:91:e1:14:05:a7:7a:
                    9b:20:a9:b2:98:6e:67:36:04:dd:a6:cb:6c:3e:23:
                    6b:73:5b:f1:dd:9e:70:2b:f7:6e:bd:dc:d1:39:98:
                    1f:84:2a:ca:6c:ad:99:8a:fa:05:41:68:f8:e4:10:
                    d7:a3:66:0a:45:bd:0e:cd:9d

Let's go a little further to verify that it's working in real world certificate validation.

Fire up an Apache instance, and let's give it a go (debian file structure, adjust as needed):

# cp cert.pem /etc/ssl/certs/
# cp origroot.pem /etc/ssl/certs/
# cp newroot.pem /etc/ssl/certs/
# cp cert.key /etc/ssl/private/

We'll set these directives on a VirtualHost listening on 443 - remember, the newroot.pem root certificate didn't even exist when cert.pem was generated and signed.

SSLEngine on
SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/cert.pem
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/cert.key
SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/ssl/certs/newroot.pem

Let's check out how openssl sees it:

# openssl s_client -showcerts -CAfile newroot.pem -connect localhost:443

Certificate chain
 0 s:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=server.lan
   i:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
...
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
 1 s:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
   i:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIICHzCCAYgCCQCapHvpKw4sMjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADBUMQswCQYDVQQGEwJB
...
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
(this should match the actual contents of newroot.pem)
...
Verify return code: 0 (ok)

Ok, and how about a browser using MS's crypto API? Gotta trust the root, first, then it's all good, with the new root's serial number:

newroot

And, we should still be working with the old root, too. Switch Apache's config around:

SSLEngine on
SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/cert.pem
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/cert.key
SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/ssl/certs/origroot.pem

Do a full restart on Apache, a reload won't switch the certs properly.

# openssl s_client -showcerts -CAfile origroot.pem -connect localhost:443

Certificate chain
 0 s:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=server.lan
   i:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
...
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
 1 s:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
   i:/C=AU/ST=Some-State/O=Internet Widgits Pty Ltd/CN=root
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIIC3jCCAkegAwIBAgIJAMBnFsCKa1kdMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMFQxCzAJBgNV
...
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
(this should match the actual contents of origroot.pem)
...
Verify return code: 0 (ok)

And, with the MS crypto API browser, Apache's presenting the old root, but the new root's still in the computer's trusted root store. It'll automatically find it and validate the cert against the trusted (new) root, despite Apache presenting a different chain (the old root). After stripping the new root from trusted roots and adding the original root cert, all is well:

oldroot

So, that's it! Keep the same private key when you renew, swap in the new trusted root, and it pretty much all just works. Good luck!

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