Electrical – full wave rectifier resistor place

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  • Where is the best to place resistor in full wave rectifier circuit?
  • What is the difference in usage of the resistors in these two
    circuits?

(values are not precise)

Three side questions:

  • what about removing one resistor and replacing the left one with bigger value in the first circuit?
  • is there any disadvantage of relatively big capacitance of the cap (instead of size) or the wave will be just smoother?
  • when there is the DC fan, do you recommend any snubber or flyback diode in this circuit?

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

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simulate this circuit

Thank you!

Best Answer

The answer depends on what the purpose of the resistor is. Most of the time, you use none at all.

Note that in both cases, the resistor is in series with the load, so will dissipate power proportional to the square of the load current. Gratuitously dissipating power is a bad idea. If you're going to spend the power, you need to have a good reason. You have not provided any.

In the top case, the resistors will limit the inrush current a bit when the cap is first charged up. Sometimes it is necessary to avoid large inrush currents.

However, R1 and R2 are in series. Electrically, you'd have the same thing by replacing one of them with a 40 Ω resistor and getting rid of the other. Using two resistors in series can be a legitimate way to get a higher power resistor. If you're already stocking the two smaller resistors, it can be all around cheaper to use them instead of stocking a whole new power resistor for a low volume product. In that case putting one in each leg may be useful too, but only to put them physically distant enough from each other so that they don't mutually heat. Electrically there is no advantage.

If it is really necessary to limit inrush cheaply, the usual solution is a negative temperature coefficient thermistor. You size it to limit inrush at room temperature. It will heat up a bit and have lower resistance during normal operation. That still eats power during operation, but not as much as a fixed resistor.

More sophisticated circuits turn on a FET slowly across the inrush limiter. After a few line cycles, the FET is fully on and there is very little resistance in series with the power feed.

The bottom circuit is just plain silly. The resistor doesn't limit inrush at all, just gets in the way of providing power. You haven't told us of any problem it is intended to solve.