I have a 3 phase wound rotor induction motor which I would like to convert into a generator. I was wondering if it is possible to excite the rotor windings using a DC current. I attempted to do this, but I don't think the rotor windings were wired for that. The rotor windings are three phases with a common neutral inside the motor. I'm not sure if the approach I'm suggesting is possible. But I would think that applying a DC current through the rotor windings would produce a magnetic field. But it only worked as a "generator" when I applied an AC current
Electrical – Wound Rotor Induction Motor Generator Conversion
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With a squirrel-cage induction motor, you can feed energy into an active supply simply by driving the motor above the synchronous speed. The power flow will reverse at the stator terminals. You can not easily and reliably use an induction motor as a stand-alone generator.
You can find on the internet instructions for using capacitors with an induction motor to make a stand-alone generator system, but those types of systems are not entirely satisfactory. The capacitor value and the load both have an effect on the generated voltage. Every time you start the system, you need to perform a starting sequence such as: first charge the capacitors from some external source, then connect them to the motor with a switch, then connect the load. You may need to increase the driving speed after you establish operation. If you connect or disconnect load items, you may need to add or remove capacitors.
If the motor is energized through an inverter, it is possible to design a satisfactory stand-alone system, but you still need an external battery or other source to get it started. The electronic system will be fairly complex.
Additional information re real and reactive power
An induction generator needs magnetizing current to operate. The magnetizing current does not represent real power but current that is out of phase with the voltage and causes energy to circulate back and forth between the source and the motor. Capacitors can be used for that purpose, but they need to be "tuned" to the motor and load. If the induction generator is connected to an AC source, that source can supply the magnetizing current (reactive volt-amperes), while the generator supplies power (watts) to the load.
I don't know if I'm too tired to see what's wrong in my question, but I'm indeed asking for the generator. which is the same component as the motor, only put in motion by something external at a speed higher than the synchronous. The problem is that generators GENERATE power, all I'm asking is where this power is. on the stator winding? how can it be, if there's already the excitation there? – user3149593 2 hours ago
I think it should be safe to assume that we are talking about a squirrel-cage induction motor. Wound rotor motors are included in electric machinery texts and courses, but they are almost never used compared to the many millions of induction motors in use.
Power in AC circuits is all about the phase relationship between voltage and current. To make things simple, we can assume that the current coming from the AC source is 90 degrees out of phase with the voltage and thus no real power comes from the source. The current in the load can be assumed to be in phase with the voltage. The current in the induction machine is the sum of the two. That is the mechanism that causes the power to come totally from the induction machine even though it is receiving magnetizing current from the AC source. That assumes just the right generated voltage. With the right driving speed, you can assure that no real power is taken from the source.
In an induction motor, the speed of the rotor structure is always less than the speed of the stator field. However the rotor field rotates faster than the rotor structure so that the rotor and stator fields are synchronized with each other.
In a synchronous motor, the rotor magnetic field is produced by permanent magnets or by DC current in the rotor winding. In either case, the rotation of the magnetic field of the rotor is mechanically fixed to the motion of the rotor. For uniform torque to be produced, the both the rotor structure and the rotor field must move synchronously with the rotor field.
In other words, both synchronous and induction motors have synchronously turning magnetic field with torque produced in proportion to the angular displacement between the stator and rotor magnetic fields. In the induction motor, the rotor structure must turn at a slower speed than the magnetic fields while in a synchronous motor, the rotor structure must move synchronously.
Re: Question Edit
In a synchronous generator, the stator magnetic field rotates behind the rotor magnetic field with respect to torque angle. It is the relative motion between the rotor magnetic field and the stator windings that allows the magnetic field of the rotor to produce current in the stator. The current produced produces a rotating magnetic field in the stator that is synchronous with the rotor magnetic field but has a torque angle displacement.
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Best Answer
Induction generators don't work very well unless they are being used to supply additional energy into an active power source.
The method involving connecting capacitors to the generator output is used in some do-it-yourself projects, but there are several disadvantages.
The generator may need to be started using a manual procedure each time it is used.
The required capacitor value varies with load.
The output voltage varies with load.
If the load varies widely during use the generator may cease generating.
The load may need to be connected a little at a time.
The maximum load is likely to be considerably less than the capability of the machine when used with an active power source.
A wound-rotor motor can be operated as an induction generator by shorting the slip-rings together and operated using the capacitor method or or by connecting the stator to an active power source.
A wound-rotor motor can also be used as a generator by connecting AC to the rotor. When used in this way, a wound-rotor motor is called a doubly-fed induction generator. Doubly-fed induction generators are commonly used as wind-turbine generators. In that case, both stator and rotor are connected to active sources of power.
If you search the internet using some of the terms used above, you should be able to find additional information. The available information may be difficult to understand without a pretty good understanding of induction motor theory.