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I have (had?) an Arduino Nano. I had it connected to the USB port and was working a charm.

I also had it connected a 12V battery pack to VIN and GND. I had done this several times without any problems, in fact, it had been running practically all day like this. I read that there's a diode on the board which selects the highest voltage in.

At one point I disconnected the pack and then reconnected. Not too sure what happened next (if LEDs went on or off, etc) since I was not expecting much to happen!

Point is, now the board wont start. Pin 13 LED permanently lights up while connected to USB, reset button does nothing and board appears to be generally dead! When the board is connected to 12V external power only the power LED lights and nothing else seems to work. IDE can see the Arduino in the port but when uploading gives "avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding"

I did not change anything in my wiring, just disconnected and then reconnected the 12V external power source. So the 64k question: what happened?

I have ordered a couple more boards since I'm quite certain I fried this unit, but would love to understand what I may have done!

Best Answer

This answer has three parts:

  • What you described doing, and how that relates to elements of the Arduino design.
  • What you might have done, to cause the symptoms you describe
  • How you might start to narrow down the fault

What you described doing

I had connected a 12V battery pack to VIN and GND.

That is not a problem, that is the input to the inboard regulator so it's fine

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I read that there's a diode on the board which selects the highest voltage in.

Yes, there is a Schottly MBR0520 diode between the USB supply and regulator output, the diode has a Vf of about 0.3v

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At one point I disconnected the pack and then reconnected..
Point is, now the board wont start..

I'm not sure what to make of that, I don't see a reason for the board to get damaged

Arduino Nano schematic

What you might have inadvertently done

There's a list of ways to kill an Arduino which consists of

  • Method #1: Shorting I/O Pins to Ground
  • Method #2: Shorting I/O Pins to Each Other
  • Method #3: Apply Overvoltage to I/O Pins
  • Method #4: Apply External Vin Power Backwards
  • Method #5: Apply >5V to the 5V Connector Pin
  • Method #6: Apply >3.3V to the 3.3V Connector Pin
  • Method #7: Short Vin to GND
  • Method #8: Apply 5V External Power with Vin Load
  • Method #9: Apply >13V to Reset Pin
  • Method #10: Exceed Total Microcontroller Current

Number 4 and 7 are interesting candidates because, on the Nano, Vin and GND are adjacent.

If you have a Nano in a solderless breadboard, with wires connecting various IO pins to the breadboard, there is always the possibility of briefly accidentally touching a 12V power lead to some component leads that connect to an IO pin.

What you can do to narrow down the area of the fault

There are many components on the Nano board itself, by disconnecting everything else apart from power to Vin & GND you can use the schematic to work out what voltages or signals should be present at various points and use a multimeter to test whether the expected voltages or signals are present.

For example you can test the input and output pins of the 5V regulator. You'd expect to see 12V at the input and 5V at the output. If you don't get 5V at the output, you might suspect the regulator has failed. You could check it's datasheet and see what kind of protections it has.

You could also check the voltage at the reset pin of the ATmega chip. What happens when you press the reset button?

And so on.

In the end though, it isn't worth spending much time on this. Your aim is not to repair the Nano but to avoid frying another one. Reading about failure modes and taking care with connections is probably the best.

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