Electronic – Are ideal op-amp characteristics redundant for solving ideal op-amp circuits

operational-amplifier

enter image description here

I have found that for solving problems with ideal op-amps, you need two rules:

  1. The potential at A is the same as that at B
  2. No current flows into or out of A or B

I have also come across a third rule:

  1. No current flows into or out of C

I know this obviously not how an op-amp works in reality, and I have found that it is a redundant rule (i.e. all problems can be solved without considering it), but so far I have not found an ideal op-amp circuit where this rule cannot be true. That is, I haven't found a circuit where the consideration of this rule changes the answer that you get.

My question is: can you find a circuit where this rule physically cannot be true?

Best Answer

Your 3rd rule

  1. No current flows into or out of C

is definitely wrong. It is quite the opposite of one of the definitions of an ideal op-amp.

Quoted from Electronics tutorials - Operational Amplifier Basics - Op-amp Parameter and Idealised Characteristic:

  • Output impedance, (\$Z_\text{out}\$)

Zero – The output impedance of the ideal operational amplifier is assumed to be zero acting as a perfect internal voltage source with no internal resistance so that it can supply as much current as necessary to the load.

Consider for example this simple voltage follower circuit driving a light bulb as the output load.

enter image description here

The input voltage \$V_B\$ is 5 volt, hence (from your rule 1) also input voltage \$V_A\$ and output voltage \$V_C\$ is 5 volt, and the output current is whatever current the light bulb draws at 5 volts.