While I was reading about filter design and going through the schematics, the following two questions popped up in my mind and I could not find a satisfactory answer to them:
- A first order low pass Butterworth filter may be designed as shown below:
(source: ecelab.com)
…and a basic second order low pass Butterworth filter as:
(source: ecelab.com)
But if we are to design a higher order filter, we don't just put another RC segment in the non-inverting terminal, instead, we cascade a combination of first and second order filters. Why is it so, I mean, why don't we just add another RC segment? Closed loop stability issues?
- A band pass filter can be constructed by cascading a low pass filter to a high pass filter with the frequency cut-off constraints. Does it make any difference which segment is added first, like 1st Order High-Pass Butterworth and then 1st order Low-Pass Butterworth, would it be any different from 1st Order Low-Pass Butterworth and the 1st order High-Pass Butterworth Filter?
Best Answer
You can notionally build as many stages as you want with a single amplifier, and AFAIR I have seen a 5 stage design implemented just to make the point BUT it becomes increasingly hard to "realise" (= construct) as you add stages around a single amplifier. To obtain the correct ratios of components requires increasingly precise component values and increasingly stable components. Capacitors are hard to get with extremely high precision and resistors are only slightly better. For a two stage or 3 stage design you can in most cases manage with 1% parts. Beyond that, the fun begins.
Note: "Pole" used generally here rather than saying "pole or zero as is applicable ..." in each case.
While you will notionally get the same result from a bandpass filter by cascading stages in any order, you will find that in limiting cases aspects such as stage Q and signal magnitude will have some effect. The same applies to stage order in a multiple stage low or high pass.
Your circuits are unusual in separately providing gain for the amplifier. This is acceptable, but the norm is to use a unity gain buffer in this application - amplifier Vout connected to amplifier inverting input. The addition of gain will also affect filter Q and you will end up not realising a classic filter polynomial if you alter the gain - assuming the designer implemented a 'proper' filter in the first place. In the case of the multipole design, varying the gain arbitrarily as shown will influence the "shape" of the resultant response rather than just its amplitude.
For one and two pole designs that need a unity gain buffer, you can use a 1 transistor emitter follower with usually acceptable results. As shown below, the results with a transistor with relatively low gain are inferior to results usually available from an opamp, but can still be very useful..
The above diagram is from this extremely good page -
Elliott Sound products: Active filters - Characteristics, Topologies, Examples
Lots more on the above, and related, here - Gargoyle search.