Electronic – Operating an adjustable voltage regulator below minimum Vout-Vin

voltage-regulator

I used an LM350 adjustable voltage regulator https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/LM350-D.PDF and to keep the wattage dissipated by the device to a minimum I have opted to make the output voltage 24VDC. Max current drawn is around 500mA. The input voltage can vary from 19VDC to 32VDC but will be 24VDC under normal conditions (24V Vehicle Supply). When the input to the circuit "Vin" is below 25.1VDC the regulator Input-Output differential will be too small and the regulator will not regulate the voltage. I cannot find any information if this will have any negative consequences eg increased noise or limiting of current flow? The circuit is intended only to limit the voltage when it goes above the normal 24V and some noise filtering as a by-product. Is there any reason not to use the regulator in the "non-regulating" / "drop-out" state most of the time?

Best Answer

Let's have a look at datasheet Figure 10 "Dropout Voltage". At 500mA it will be a bit above 1.5V.

When operating in this mode, the output pass transistor will be fully on (saturated in this case, since it is a NPN bipolar).

If this was a PNP pass device LDO, you would expect excess ground current, as the regulator attemps to saturate its output device. However, this one uses a NPN, so the excess base current will simply go into the output. No problem here.

The regulator will not regulate anything though, this means it will act either as a resistor or as a couple of diodes in series, so output voltage may vary depending on current draw. Also, output voltage will follow input voltage, so input noise will not be suppressed.

If your load works on 19V, and you have 24V input, and the load can tolerate the regulator not rejecting input noise, then you're fine. In this case it would simply act as a voltage limiter.

If you also want to filter noise, then something like a capacitance multiplier with an output voltage limit would be more suitable.

EDIT: Example

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simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

This is a simple capacitance multiplier. It lowpass-filters the input (RC network) to filter out noise. Zener limits the voltage. I put in a CFP (double transistor) for lower output impedance, so you can say that's the "luxury" version!