Oscilloscope measuring of PMT in photon counting mode

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I have a setup as drawn below: DC source of 15V connected to high voltage (HV) source of 1500V connected to photomultiplier tube Hamamatsu, R1-R3 are resistors builtin the socket of PMT (there are actualy 10 of them and some capacitors…). R4 is load resistance to convert PMT current to voltage. I am measuring voltage with oscilloscope. Oscilloscope is powered from isolation transformer. Input DC voltage is also powered from power supply with transformer, so the grounds should be isolated.

My problem is shown below on images: if I connect oscilloscope probes in one polarity I get expected result (photon excited pulses), image 1. But if I change polarity I get weird ripples on 13kHz, image 2. I believe it is the ripple from HV power supply. But I don't understand why am I measuring it. If I change probe polarity I would expect just the change of polarity of measured signal (peaks up, not down).

This makes me puzzled most: it is the same when I use batteries as 15V DC instead of regulated power supply.

Why do I get these results? I want to count pulses but it seems that when I try to do so with ADC and Arduino powered from USB I am counting just the ripples or some similar noice, not the peaks. Is it problem with some ground loops? How can I avoid this? Using instrumental amplifier with R4 in negative feedback loop but with similar result.

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Best Answer

I'm not sure what your 13 kHz ripple is, but it seems more like power supply ripple than a ground loop. If your HV supply is a positive supply, then the PMT 'ground' is going to be ripple-y. The floating ground lead on your scope presumably has a lot of parasitic capacitance, since it goes to the chassis and everywhere inside. When the ground lead is connected to PMT ground, there's not much capacitance on the anode, but when the ground lead is on the anode, there's a big chunk of capacitance to charge and discharge with the ripple. That's my speculation.

In general, what you want when dealing with pulses is a "pulse discriminator", which lets you put conditions on the height, length, etc. of the pulses you're interested in. Since you're pulse counting, you probably don't need anything fancy, a simple comparator will do, but it will need to have sufficient negative input range. You can build a simple one using an op-amp, but you can get ones off the shelf that are faster and with logic level output. Alternatively you could use an inverting amplifier topology to flip the signal, but you will still need negative input range and sufficiently high bandwidth to pass pulse waveforms through.

Edit: One more thing, isn't the max voltage on the R1166 1250V?